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I am still getting moronic comments on my personal blog from people who think it's not sexist or racist to exclude women and people of color from the "I Write Like" meme...

So tired of this

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Lol, quotas. Do you read Shortpacked? I don't have time to find it right now, but he did a comic on tokenism that applies here. . .

IT IS ONLY SEXIST IF YOU WRITE "I AM MEANT TO BE SEXIST FOREVER" AT THE TOP OF EVERY SENTENCE BECAUSE MY MAN SENSES TELL ME THAT PRIVILEGE NEVER HAPPENS EVER AND THAT THE ONLY WAY TO BE PRIVILEGED IS WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE OF IT.

Also, intention excuses EVERYTHING.

THE MAGICAL INTENT FAIRY FLEW DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND MADE IT ALL BETTER, OKAY?

Intention excuses some things. Just not, y'know, things that by nature are a result of lack of intent.

I read it on and off but I haven't seen that one before! That is excellent.

It's just, tokenism *does* suck, but using it as an excuse to avoid diversity is so dumb.

Yes, and making sure that there is equal representation is not the same as creating a one-off stereotype to "placate" an oppressed group.

Right? I wanted to scan the alumni brochure my fiance got in the mail recently from UMASS. Every picture was like, a group of white people, and then one black lady at the end with her arm around someone else. I think one picture had an Asian dude hugging a black lady while a group of white people laughed, you know? It was weird. So like, points for trying I guess, but really? That was the best you could do?

If that's an alum brochure, how much of that was carefully calculated to make sure the rich white alums keep donating (They need to be "diverse" but not "too diverse")? It would be interesting to compare to the admission brochure.

I'll I see is "blah blah I'm a straight white male who is so oppressed."

Seriously, there are so many fantastic, famous authors of every gender, sexual orientation, and color. And like you said, if you just take a best selling authors list and copied it down, it'd have more diversity than this meme does.

http://questioningtransphobia.wordpress.com/2010/02/03/intent-is-magic/

I really like this blog entry about intent, and I think about it every time everyone uses intent to defend things such as this.

That's a very good post.

I feel that there are certain things that can be excused by intent, especially where they're the type of things that could not have been known by the person acting in the situation. But it doesn't make the result of what you've done go away, even in cases where lack of intent does put someone totally in the right. For example, you buy a gift for someone that reminds them of a dead relative. You couldn't possibly have known that it would have that connection for them or that it would upset them so much; the intent was to be a kind and generous friend. The person in question totally has the right to be upset, but also shouldn't blame you for it and should recognize what your intent was.

But in cases where it's not a question of an unquestionably good intent having a bad result, when it's a question of having no intent at all because you have never made the effort to value people who are different from you, you don't get to stand there and say that because you didn't mean it, it's not a problem.

This is very true. There is a distinct difference between someone actually having the purest of good intentions and someone just trying to excuse their -ist/-phobic words or actions.

I would also personally accept intent as an excuse in a situation where someone sincerely apologized, corrected their mistake and proceeded to learn and grow from the experience. However, I really just think that a lot of people don't want to see how prejudiced and privileged they truly are, and do try to use "intent" as a magical protective shield.

Yeah, even in those cases, I don't think it's horrible for someone to say that it was not their intent to offend as long as they are not just going through the motions and don't think it excuses what they did. But I think part of this is that we grow up in a world where in spite of hearing about what the road to hell is paved with, we also get told over and over that it's the thought that counts, that it's okay if you don't do something right as long as you try and people don't get why that doesn't go for, you know, causing actual hurt.

Wow, Bob should suck it!

I can think of a lot worse things Bob should do.

It is nice, that he is concerned with the poor non-white-male authors enough to make sure they aren't included in anything.

Haha, I think you should tell him so.

Hey look! Google Books has How To Suppress Women's Writing! Maybe you could just start posting that link along with a picture of a kitten?

I love that he brings up the reliable old "feminist hippies" trope for good measure. *facepalm*

Because the only feminists are hippies.

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