tea berry-blue (teaberryblue) wrote,
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Ethnicity and other things

I had a really fascinating conversation with hymnicide last night. We talked about a variety of things, like alternative education, what it means to have career goals as a teenager, ethnic identification, and definition of 'whiteness'-- how some people are considered white in one geographic area and not considered white in another, or how some white-skinned ethnic groups are considered 'more white' than other white-skinned ethnic groups. We talked about how, growing up where we did, about half the people we know are Jewish, and most of the Christians we know are Catholic, not Protestant. We talked about some of the things applespicy discussed in her post yesterday: about the real failure in the US to create pedestrian-friendly cities, as opposed to European cities that make it very easy to walk everywhere and to everything. We talked about the lack of a need for a car where we grew up in comparison to many places in the US. It was interesting.

Nora and I both grew up about ten-fifteen minutes away from each other, although she's more than ten years younger than I am. We had an interesting conversation about how college admissions have changed and how expectations of kids in high school have changed. Even how the reputations and demographics of certain top universities have changed: I don't want to name the school publicly, but she is looking at a school that I had a really hard time with when I went to visit. When I went there as a 16 year old bisexual kid looking at colleges, I was scared by new I heard about gay kids getting bullied on campus. She says that the same school now is reputed for being very open and liberal. Man, things change a lot.

Anyway, we started talking about whether being 'white' in New York is different from being 'white' in other parts of the country. For example, in some places, Jews and Italians are both definitely considered white, while in other places, they are definitely not. Growing up, I had a lot of friends whom I considered white who were not treated as white in other situations: Israelis, Iranians, Armenians, and so on. So I decided to make a poll about ethnicity. I would like to say that I had trouble wording some of these questions, so if you find the terminology limiting or in any way offensive, I apologize in advance, and please feel free to correct me or offer your own suggestions in the comments. I had a hard time deciding when to use 'white' as a label and when to use 'majority' as a label. Same goes for anything I might have overlooked.



Poll #1172765 Ethnicity questions

What is your ethnicity?

Look at question #1. Did your answer include:

The country you now live in (eg, you live in England and consider yourself English)?
11(17.7%)
The country you or your recent ancestors (great-great-grandparents or later) came from originally?
14(22.6%)
The country your very old ancestors (before your great-great grandparents) came from originally?
9(14.5%)
The country your spouse/significant other is from?
0(0.0%)
A country you pretend to be from because you like talking in a funny accent at work?
0(0.0%)

Regardless of your answer to #1, do you know where your ancestors are originally from?

Yes, and it is the country I live in now.
5(7.4%)
Yes, and it is a country I don't live in now.
57(83.8%)
My ancestors are from Krypton and you are triggering my issues with the destruction of my home planet.
5(7.4%)
No.
1(1.5%)

What country/province/state/county is your current residence?

Do you consider yourself to be white?

Yes
56(82.4%)
No
4(5.9%)
Sometimes
6(8.8%)
I don't know
2(2.9%)

When you ride the bus or train, or walk into a store, most of the people there (not counting employees):

share your ethnicity
24(35.3%)
have a different ethnicity
11(16.2%)
have an ethnicity that is the same or different in about equal numbers
10(14.7%)
It depends
22(32.4%)
I don't know
1(1.5%)

Based on your observations, were you/are you...

a member of the racial/ethnic group that makes up the majority in your country?
0(0.0%)
a member of the racial/ethnic group that makes up the majority in your home town?
0(0.0%)
a member of the racial/ethnic group that makes up the majority where you live now?
0(0.0%)
a member of the racial/ethnic group that makes up the majority in your elementary school?
0(0.0%)
a member of the racial/ethnic group that makes up the majority in your high school/college?
0(0.0%)
ever in a position of being the racial/ethnic minority for a long period of time (a year or more)?
5(7.4%)
a member of the religious majority in your country?
0(0.0%)
a member of the religious majority in your community (town or school)?
0(0.0%)
My experiences are more complicated than this and I will explain.
5(7.4%)
I don't really know.
0(0.0%)

Have you ever...

felt as if you were being singled out because of your ethnicity?
1(1.6%)
felt as if you were being singled out because of your skin color?
1(1.6%)
felt as if you were being treated as a member of a minority even though you considered yourself part of the majority?
0(0.0%)
felt as if you were being treated as a member of a majority even though you considered yourself part of a minority?
1(1.6%)
gone visiting in a country/state/city/town where you have been treated as more or less of a minority than you consider yourself to be in your hometown
6(9.8%)
had a friend whom you considered 'white' who identified as something else.
7(11.5%)
had a friend whom you did not consider 'white' who idenfied as 'white.'
0(0.0%)
Had another relevant experience you will explain in the comments?
2(3.3%)

Does being the only member of your race or ethnicity in a group make you uncomfortable?

Yes
3(4.5%)
No
34(50.7%)
It depends what race/ethnicity the other people are members of.
9(13.4%)
It depends whether the other people are all members of the same ethnic group and I am the only one who is not.
21(31.3%)


Tags: ethnicity, hymnicide, poll, race
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